Adam is simply a retrojective conclusion of an ancient taxonomy which is based on an ancient phenomenological perspective of biology
:- Denis Lamoureux
In short, Adam is you and Adam is me.
Tuesday, 15 June 2010
Monday, 14 June 2010
Persecution
Try to tell a Christian in almost any Muslim country that Christians are not persecuted yet but will be in the future.
On second thought, don't. You will look like a fool.
On second thought, don't. You will look like a fool.
Sunday, 6 June 2010
Young Earth Creationist Lies and Falsehoods
Young Earth Creationists have annoyed me enough for me not to worry about offending them.
One falsehood of Young Earth Creationists is that Old Earth Creationists (also known as Progressive Creationists) believe in Evolution.. This is absolute nonsense. As most YEC’s are fundamentalists everything has to be black and white to them. The idea of more than two different views is very hard for them to grasp. Therefore YEC’s won’t just be economical with the truth, they will tell outright lies and accuse OEC’s of being evolutionists.
One has to remember that to YEC’s Evolution is the great atheist doctrine on everything. This of course is also nonsense. In reality many of them know it is not but they will carry on wilfully speaking as if they believe it is.
YEC’s also claim that when Theistic Evolutionists (Also known as Evolutionary Creationists) say that the Book of Genesis is mythical they mean it is not true. This is also nonsense. What we reject is Scientific Concordism. Scientific Concordism is the assumption that all scientific discoveries are mentioned in The Bible. If The Bible is the word of God then it is a reasonable assumption to make. If it is the case we can test it scientifically. Comparing the fossil record with the creation accounts proves the assumption to be false. YEC and OEC do not line up. This means that Theistic Evolution is the only Creationist belief that holds up because it rejects scientific Concordism.
So how do Christians who except Evolution interpret the creation ‘myths’?
Any portion of The Bible is scientifically accurate according to the scientific knowledge of the time it was written. People observed that cows produced cows and people produced people. Therefore there must have been an original cow and an original person . This was the level of the ancient scientific understanding on the origins of life. When God inspired people to write the Bible he came down to their level of understanding too show them that he is a loving God and the first course of everything. Why wouldn’t God come down to peoples level? God came down to our level in Christ.
Another great falsehood of YEC’s is the claim that there is no way of explaining the doctrine of the cosmic fall. (Romans 5:12-18) The belief that God launched death and decay on the whole of creation because of sin. However much it is explained to them they will insist that there is no explanation.
Romans 8:20-22 definitely talks about physical death not spiritual death. Physical death existed before humans according to the fossil record. So how do we get round this? Paul believed in an ancient astronomy and an ancient geology. A three tier universe (Philippians 2:10) and he would have also believed in an ancient biology. Therefore he accepted an ancient view on the origin of life. A cow gives birth to a cow etc. To the ancients the kinds made perfect taxonomic sense. As Paul had an ancient view of the origin of life he had to also have an ancient view of the origin of death. If you separate the message from the incidental ancient science you conclude that sin is not connected with physical death therefore there is no sin death problem, sin entered the world but not through Adam but Jesus died for our sins. Jesus died for sinful humans and rose physically from the dead and offers the hope of eternal life. (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) This also stands up by Anselms Ontological Approach.
YEC’s also claim that Evolutionary Creationists teach that the Bible is not the unerring and perfect Word of God. I have some news for them. The copy of The Bible they have is not the unerring word of God. It contains errors. We know this because it is a translation. In fact the KJV translators translated some bits wrong on purpose. This is why it is so full of hellfire and brimstone. The doctrine of eternal punishment can not be found in the original manuscripts of the gospels. The original manuscripts maybe unerring but unfortunately we haven’t got them.
YEC’s also claim that as Jesus refers to many events in Genesis it makes Jesus a liar. As I have already explained earlier The Bible is scientifically accurate according to the scientific knowledge of the time it was written. People observed that cows produced cows and people produced people. Therefore there must have been an original cow and an original person . This was the level of the ancient scientific understanding on the origins of life. When God inspired people to write the Bible he came down to their level of understanding too show them that he is a loving God and the first course of everything. Why wouldn’t God come down to peoples level? God came down to our level in Christ. So God in Christ spoke to them at their level of understanding.
YEC’s also claim that if God couldn't create everything in six days, he's not as awesome. As God inhabits all time and eternity and could have created everything in six seconds, that is a red herring.
YEC’s also claim that evolutionary creation puts more trust in ever-changing science than in God's Word. As Jesus is the word become flesh and Christian evolutionists are trusting in him the claim is false.
Another thing that YEC’s keep doing, no matter how much it has been explained to them is claiming evolution is a theory and not a fact. They lie claiming it is bad science to call theory a fact. It doesn’t matter how many times you debunk this claim, they will still keep saying it. In reality, within science a theory is a scientific model based on evidence. If something is called a theory it has gone beyond the hypothetical stage and has been accepted as fact based on the evidence. Another theory is the theory of gravity. Who would claim gravity isn’t a fact?
YEC’s also claim that's evolution is simply bad science. But of course it isn’t. Creationism is bad science. In science the conclusion is based on the facts while in creationism the facts are based on the conclusion. The facts are that the facts support evolution and not a literal interpretation of the Genesis account. As creationists start off with the conclusion that the Genesis account is scientifically accurate all facts must support it and any fact that says otherwise is either coincidental or more often simply bad science.
Another thing YEC’s say is that evolution claims that God is just letting things happen without any control when in fact it is Newton’s theory of motion that claims that. Let’s not forget that Sir Isaac Newton was a creationist. Sir Isaac Newton said that God wrote the laws of physics and set them in place, then let the universe tick over. To Christians at the time it made perfect sense. If creationists seriously have a problem with it, then they must deny the existence of gravity. We believe that God caused all physical life that exists today to come into being by the evolutionary process. We are not here by accident.
YEC’s also claim an acceptance of evolution is a watered down doctrine. The way they put it across we’re in the same league as the Pelgians and the Arians. As the gospel we preach is the unvarnished gospel of Christ crucified and risen in three days so that we may be forgiven it’s not watered down. What dilutes the gospel is the doctrine that you have to believe that everything in The Bible is literal. According Matthew 25:34-45 it would appear that Jesus is more concerned with feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and helping the poor than if people believe in the virgin birth or not.
YEC’s also claim that a belief in evolution also lead to doctrines like "No Hell" for the wicked. But if it does or it doesn’t the fact is that if you put all the words translated as ‘Hell’ in the gospel into context, hell indeed is not a real place. They‘ll never answer the question “Why didn‘t Peter, Paul or James ever mention the place if it‘s real?” Interestingly the ancient scientific understanding of a three tier universe means that Paul is not referring to 'Hell' when he talks about under the earth in Philippians 2:10 (I may write on this in the future)
One falsehood of Young Earth Creationists is that Old Earth Creationists (also known as Progressive Creationists) believe in Evolution.. This is absolute nonsense. As most YEC’s are fundamentalists everything has to be black and white to them. The idea of more than two different views is very hard for them to grasp. Therefore YEC’s won’t just be economical with the truth, they will tell outright lies and accuse OEC’s of being evolutionists.
One has to remember that to YEC’s Evolution is the great atheist doctrine on everything. This of course is also nonsense. In reality many of them know it is not but they will carry on wilfully speaking as if they believe it is.
YEC’s also claim that when Theistic Evolutionists (Also known as Evolutionary Creationists) say that the Book of Genesis is mythical they mean it is not true. This is also nonsense. What we reject is Scientific Concordism. Scientific Concordism is the assumption that all scientific discoveries are mentioned in The Bible. If The Bible is the word of God then it is a reasonable assumption to make. If it is the case we can test it scientifically. Comparing the fossil record with the creation accounts proves the assumption to be false. YEC and OEC do not line up. This means that Theistic Evolution is the only Creationist belief that holds up because it rejects scientific Concordism.
So how do Christians who except Evolution interpret the creation ‘myths’?
Any portion of The Bible is scientifically accurate according to the scientific knowledge of the time it was written. People observed that cows produced cows and people produced people. Therefore there must have been an original cow and an original person . This was the level of the ancient scientific understanding on the origins of life. When God inspired people to write the Bible he came down to their level of understanding too show them that he is a loving God and the first course of everything. Why wouldn’t God come down to peoples level? God came down to our level in Christ.
Another great falsehood of YEC’s is the claim that there is no way of explaining the doctrine of the cosmic fall. (Romans 5:12-18) The belief that God launched death and decay on the whole of creation because of sin. However much it is explained to them they will insist that there is no explanation.
Romans 8:20-22 definitely talks about physical death not spiritual death. Physical death existed before humans according to the fossil record. So how do we get round this? Paul believed in an ancient astronomy and an ancient geology. A three tier universe (Philippians 2:10) and he would have also believed in an ancient biology. Therefore he accepted an ancient view on the origin of life. A cow gives birth to a cow etc. To the ancients the kinds made perfect taxonomic sense. As Paul had an ancient view of the origin of life he had to also have an ancient view of the origin of death. If you separate the message from the incidental ancient science you conclude that sin is not connected with physical death therefore there is no sin death problem, sin entered the world but not through Adam but Jesus died for our sins. Jesus died for sinful humans and rose physically from the dead and offers the hope of eternal life. (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) This also stands up by Anselms Ontological Approach.
YEC’s also claim that Evolutionary Creationists teach that the Bible is not the unerring and perfect Word of God. I have some news for them. The copy of The Bible they have is not the unerring word of God. It contains errors. We know this because it is a translation. In fact the KJV translators translated some bits wrong on purpose. This is why it is so full of hellfire and brimstone. The doctrine of eternal punishment can not be found in the original manuscripts of the gospels. The original manuscripts maybe unerring but unfortunately we haven’t got them.
YEC’s also claim that as Jesus refers to many events in Genesis it makes Jesus a liar. As I have already explained earlier The Bible is scientifically accurate according to the scientific knowledge of the time it was written. People observed that cows produced cows and people produced people. Therefore there must have been an original cow and an original person . This was the level of the ancient scientific understanding on the origins of life. When God inspired people to write the Bible he came down to their level of understanding too show them that he is a loving God and the first course of everything. Why wouldn’t God come down to peoples level? God came down to our level in Christ. So God in Christ spoke to them at their level of understanding.
YEC’s also claim that if God couldn't create everything in six days, he's not as awesome. As God inhabits all time and eternity and could have created everything in six seconds, that is a red herring.
YEC’s also claim that evolutionary creation puts more trust in ever-changing science than in God's Word. As Jesus is the word become flesh and Christian evolutionists are trusting in him the claim is false.
Another thing that YEC’s keep doing, no matter how much it has been explained to them is claiming evolution is a theory and not a fact. They lie claiming it is bad science to call theory a fact. It doesn’t matter how many times you debunk this claim, they will still keep saying it. In reality, within science a theory is a scientific model based on evidence. If something is called a theory it has gone beyond the hypothetical stage and has been accepted as fact based on the evidence. Another theory is the theory of gravity. Who would claim gravity isn’t a fact?
YEC’s also claim that's evolution is simply bad science. But of course it isn’t. Creationism is bad science. In science the conclusion is based on the facts while in creationism the facts are based on the conclusion. The facts are that the facts support evolution and not a literal interpretation of the Genesis account. As creationists start off with the conclusion that the Genesis account is scientifically accurate all facts must support it and any fact that says otherwise is either coincidental or more often simply bad science.
Another thing YEC’s say is that evolution claims that God is just letting things happen without any control when in fact it is Newton’s theory of motion that claims that. Let’s not forget that Sir Isaac Newton was a creationist. Sir Isaac Newton said that God wrote the laws of physics and set them in place, then let the universe tick over. To Christians at the time it made perfect sense. If creationists seriously have a problem with it, then they must deny the existence of gravity. We believe that God caused all physical life that exists today to come into being by the evolutionary process. We are not here by accident.
YEC’s also claim an acceptance of evolution is a watered down doctrine. The way they put it across we’re in the same league as the Pelgians and the Arians. As the gospel we preach is the unvarnished gospel of Christ crucified and risen in three days so that we may be forgiven it’s not watered down. What dilutes the gospel is the doctrine that you have to believe that everything in The Bible is literal. According Matthew 25:34-45 it would appear that Jesus is more concerned with feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and helping the poor than if people believe in the virgin birth or not.
YEC’s also claim that a belief in evolution also lead to doctrines like "No Hell" for the wicked. But if it does or it doesn’t the fact is that if you put all the words translated as ‘Hell’ in the gospel into context, hell indeed is not a real place. They‘ll never answer the question “Why didn‘t Peter, Paul or James ever mention the place if it‘s real?” Interestingly the ancient scientific understanding of a three tier universe means that Paul is not referring to 'Hell' when he talks about under the earth in Philippians 2:10 (I may write on this in the future)
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